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Hmmm would this pass or not?

NDC

In Ontario, Canada btw.. This install already happened and passed but I'm thinking I could have done it for less cost. For a residential install I had to run 2 dedicated 120V 20 amp circuits to feed two sump pumps at the same location. I installed 2 x 20 amp single receptacles in separate 1110 boxes, This allowed me to avoid arc faulting the circuit. I'm wondering if I could have instead installed a 20 amp duplex, snapped off both hot and neutral tabs, and slapped it all in one box. 26-724 (f) states: (f) each branch circuit supplying 125 V receptacles rated 20 A or less shall be protected by a combination-type arc-fault circuit interrupter, except for branch circuits supplying (i) receptacles installed in accordance with (A) Rule 26-710(f); or (B) Rule 26-712(d)((i), (iii), (iv), and (v); and _**(ii) a single receptacle for a sump pump where**_ **_(A) the receptacle is labelled in a conspicuous, legible, and permanent manner identifying it as a sump pump receptacle; and (B) the branch circuit does not supply any other receptacles;_**The 20 amp single outlets cost me $20 each. Not a huge savings but the labour involved would have been less as well.

MechanicalDVR

Why two circuits? What was the amperage for the pumps?

mitch65

If the inspector wanted to be a ****, he could fail you with a split duplex. It follows the spirit of the code, if not the letter.

Canadiansparky83

Yes you could definitely do what you are suggesting. You would just need to add common trip to the breakers. 20 amps does seem overkill for a sump. Did they actually come with T slot male ends?

Navyguy

If you AFCI the duplex you can do it. If you don't want to AFCI, the receptacle has to be single receptacle. I have had this dance a couple of times now. You also have to mark it with a label "Sump Pump Only". Both options have to be tamper...

emtnut

I'd argue with the inspector on that one ... a split receptacle is 2 separate receptacles .. and as Mitch said, it's in the spirit of the code, especially if each outlet is labelled.

RePhase277

$20 for a single 20 amp receptacle?

Navyguy

Trust me, I have argued, if it is a duplex you must use an AFCI breaker. Spend it on the receptacle or the breaker... no matter. Now if you are going to split that duplex you would need a two-pole AFCI since both circuits are on the same yoke / strap.

NDC

Good point about being on the same yoke and needing a 2pole. I didn't install tamper single receptacles though. I guess the inspector didnt pick up on it. Edit: after posting this I realized that I can't even find a TR single outlet. Nedco doesnt have one either.

lighterup

I'm not familiar with canada , but why would a sump need AFCI at all? Our beef here was GFCI on sump pumps until Ohio amended it as not being required IF you also place a gfci outlet within 6' of it.

NDC

Now would this be acceptable as a single receptacle because its the only readily available TR single receptacle I can find lol

Navyguy

Try this link

NDC

I'm wondering though for a new build with the new afci codes, do these builder sparks use single receptacles on a regular breaker or duplex and afci breaker?

frenchelectrican

All it depending on what it run and what kind load it feed and it will stated pretty clear in your CEC.

B-Nabs

Come to that, have you been given any grief for using flush cover plates in a surface installation?

electricguy

Yes

electricguy

Over the years I have seen lots of plastic plates used, but a month ago i decided to use the plastics on surface mount 1110 he made me change them to metal decora at that glad i had 2 on board

Gnome

Yep, I've been caught up on not using the correct plate on an 1110 too. I can kind of see it too; the plastic ones are easy to catch a shirt sleeve on and thereby get pulled enough to break and the metal ones can be wicked sharp at the corners.

Navyguy

The whole thing is stupid... don't get me wrong, I am not "anti-safety", but tell me why the fridge is exempt but not a freezer... sump and sewage... the bathroom receptacle but not one for an washing machine. It is stupid... just put in main breaker AFCI and be done with the whole thing...