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Working with old iron nails - Jewelry Discussion - Ganoksin Orchid Jewelry Forum Community for Jewelers and Metalsmiths

    I have been given some old iron nails from a cathedral in Vancouver.
    They recently did a renovation and someone thought that the original
    hand forged nails could be made into something interesting to sell
    as a fundraiser. I’ve searched the archives but haven’t found
    anything very helpful on how to work with this material. I’m
    wondering how much I can manipulate the metal - can it be annealed
    and bent? - can it be soldered or should I be planning on cold
    connection? and finally, how do I keep it from rusting? Thanks very
    much

    Joanna Francis

    Finally, a subject I know something about! Iron must be forged–in
    other words worked hot at a red orange to yellow heat. At that
    point, it is easy to hammer, twist or bend, and can be shaped into
    virtually anything, but it will re-harden as it cools. ABANA, which
    is the association for artist-blacksmiths has a website www.abana.org
    and a good publication called The Anvil’s Ring. It has numerous
    articles and pictures of the wonderful art made with iron and steel.
    You can also look up your local chapter of ABANA and find a group
    close to you. I’m sure you will be able to find someone willing to
    help, and perhaps let you use a forge and get some tips. For small
    items like nails, you could bring them up to forging heat with an
    oxyacetylene torch. Find a friend who welds and they will have the
    proper size torch tips to get enough heat. The small sizes jewelers
    usually use will probably not be sufficient. A propane torch might
    work, but I’m not sure. I have a propane forge, but it has multiple
    burners and may have a different oxygen/fuel mix than a torch. Have
    fun! One of the really great things about blacksmithing is that the
    material is cheap so you can experiment endlessly.

    Linda Holmes-Rubin
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    Yahoo ! Something I actually have some experience with. Yes indeed,
    you can make beautiful things with old nails. Here are a few tips:

    1.) Avoid using galvanized nails. They are dipped in a coating of
    melted zinc to provide a certain degree of rust-proofing. Get this
    coating hot, as you must do to really work with steel, and breathe
    the fumes and you can get very sick. Stick to non-galvanized nails.

    2.) Regular nails are generally made out of mild steel. This type of
    steel has a very low carbon content, which makes heat treating them
    difficult. Low carbon steels like this do work very well for small
    projects.

    3.) Try using what are called “Cut nails” if you intend to do any
    kind of heat treating like hardening or tempering. They are actually
    cut out by stamping them from sheet and look like horse-shoe nails
    instead of something made from wire. I am currently making some
    chasing and repousse’ tools from these nails and, so far at least,
    they are working nicely.

    Nails can be a lot of fun. I have used a simple propane torch to
    heat the smaller variety nails to working temps but the larger
    nails don’t seem to really get hot enough. I do use my oxy/acetylene
    torch with a size 000 tip with great success and have made
    sculptures using only nails. Using cut nails I have made miniature
    swords and knives that are hardened, and tempered. They are real,
    live tiny little knives that sharpen and cut nicely. Lots of fun can
    be had with nails. Enjoy yourself playing with them.

    Another person here mentioned http://www.reil1.net Ron Reil is an
    accomplished blacksmith and, on his page, he has all the information
    you need to build a very practical and small forge with a homemade
    burner you can build yourself or buy from him. These are very
    effective forges that run on propane and will definitely do anything
    you might need a small forge to do. Follow the link that Brian
    Barrett gave you to Reil’s homepage. You can find an amazing amount
    of about blacksmithing there. Blacksmithing is a very
    gratifying sport and very fun to do. I encourage anyone to go as deep
    as they want into it. Making art with hot steel is a lot of fun!

    Mike

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    I'm wondering how much I can manipulate the metal - can it be annealed and bent? - can it be soldered or should I be planning on cold connection? and finally, how do I keep it from rusting? 

    Hello Joanna,

    I’ve done a fair amount of work with horse nails (new, not reclaimed)
    and have found them nice to work with if you realize that you’re
    working with iron and not a copper based alloy.

    to anneal: heat to a dull red and bury in warm sand or the like.
    Leave buried until they’re cold. The point is that you want them to
    cool as slowly as possible.

    to work: iron is best worked while red hot which is a dream because
    it is like warm plasic at that temp, very easy to shape, twist, etc
    (very satisfying work!). Annealing is a fair second option though
    you’ll find it will work harden quite quickly compared to sterling
    and gold alloys.

    soldering: I’ve never been very pleased with my efforts to silver
    solder iron nails. It can be done, much depends on having a good flux
    I’m told, but I’ve always found brazing (using a high temp torch like
    oxy-acetylene) to be cleaner and, to my eyes, look better. Obviously
    much personal bias there.

    cold connection: personally, this is what I’ve found I prefer if for
    no other reason than there’s a certain syncronicity between nails and
    rivets, or whatever, in terms of design aesthetics.

    rust prevention: there are commercial treatments you can buy but
    they’re often pretty serious chemicals so I’ve always preferred and
    used the old fashioned “blueing” technique.

    blueing: clean and wire brush the finished piece so that you’ve
    removed all scale, flux glass, etc, coat the piece in motor oil (a
    light coat of used motor oil seems to work best, just a couple drops
    smeared all over the piece with your fingers), gently bath the piece
    in heat 'til the oil smokes (protect yourself from breathing that
    smoke by the way and don’t heat it so much that the oil actually burns
    away), quench in salt water. For some reason I’ve never been able to
    find a reference to this but quenching the blue in a mild brine seems
    to build a better finish than quenching in plain water. Repeat this
    process two or three times and you’ve got a nicely blued piece that
    will stand up to normal wear and tear remarkably well. I’ve made
    men’s buckles out of horse nails and finished them this way: years
    later they’re still an attractive deep steely blue, the finish is
    still in very good condition and no rust. Note that this type of
    blueing is not satisfactory for pieces that will be worn next to the
    skin since normal body moisture and salts will attack and destroy it
    fairly quickly.

    I hope some of this is useful to you.

    Cheers,
    Trevor F.

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